Zocus Опубликовано 9 октября, 2012 Поделиться #1 Опубликовано 9 октября, 2012 Сегодня наткнулся на несколько роликов: Все они надерганы из документалки американской образовательной организации PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) "Ravens" (ВОроны), которая у них проходит под рубрикой Nature (Природа). Очень захотелось посмотреть все версию целиком сразу после того как увидел как этот милый птах нагло выщипывает хвост национальному символу америки.Фильм на русский не переводился, в России не выходил ни на каких носителях и ни в каких сетях не вещался. Потратил 3 (ТРИ) часа на поиски в сети - безуспешно: ни на торрентах, ни на рапидшарах, нигде нет, складывается впечатление, что пол ФБР его старательно вычищали, хотя других фильмов этой же конторы - пожалуйства, качай не хочу. В штатах на двд фильма выходила.Вот поэтому вопрос: вдруг кто-то когда-то качал, и чисто случайно он у кого-то пылится в недрах террабайтных хардов, я буду очень признателен. ЗЫКстати у них ( у ПБС) есть еще замечательный фильм о ворОнах: A Murder of Crows (в дословном переводе как "Убийственные вороны", у них это слово также как и в русском может употребляться в переносном значении, обозначающем нечто очень классное и термоядерное), и он переводился на русский, хотя наши горячо любимые мной переводчики решили, что название, которое придумали авторы, оно пусть для них и остается, а для России сойдет и "Воронья стая". Вот он есть на торрентах. Да, и не пугайтесь, об убийстве самих ворон в фильме не полслова. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Xenomorph Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Поделиться #2 Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Он просто недоступен не-американцам, завтра утром выложу, если докачается. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Амиата Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Поделиться #3 Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Zocus, переводчики просто не знали этой идиомы, а в словарь полезть не догадались, вот и озаглавили, как придумалось. Сплошь и рядом такие вещи встречаю. Увы, наше время - время непрофессионализма. Кстати, я бы перевела название как-нибудь, типа " Умрешь от этих ворон!"Xenomorph, было бы очень здорово! Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Zocus Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #4 Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 ... завтра утром выложу, если докачается. Ждю с нетерпением.Этна, я минут 15 ломал голову как это перевести, в фильме ясно говорится: everyone in the flock known as "A murder of crows", т.е. все в стае, известной как "...". Ну вот я и затупил, причем тут убийство в названии вороньей стаи. А потом чисто случайно залез на ПБС и там в аннотации к фильме уже стало понятно, что слово здесь в переносном смысле употребляется. А переводчикам... им бедняжкам еще же наверно 5 фильмов в этот день надо было перевести, куда уж тут в словарь лезть. Проще не переводить совсем, как они в данном случае и поступили. ЗЫВ первом посте я немного ввел в заблуждение: про убиства там несколько слов все-таки есть. Но фильм зачотный. Его эпизодически крутят по кабельным каналам, и тем кто не видел, обязательно стоит посмотреть. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Амиата Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Поделиться #5 Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 (изменено) Zocus, Ох и завели вы меня этим названием! Аж забытую профессию припомнила! Долго рыла и знаете что? Все просто до смешного! Это самое "A murder of crows"означает - стая ворон Более того, выяснила, что у англичан название "стая" разнится в зависимости от вида птиц:Peep or brood of chickensSedge of cranesFlight of doves/swallowsRaft of ducksGaggle/skein (косяк) of geeseCast/lease of hawksWatch of nightingalesKit of pigeonsTidings of magpiesPandemonium of parrots Вevy of swansИ так далее... От придумают буржуи!)))))))) Изменено 10 октября, 2012 пользователем Амиата Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Zocus Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #6 Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 (изменено) Это самое "A murder of crows"означает - стая ворон Убийственно!!!Пойду стреляться. EditedПересмотрел в фильме эту фразу. Получается для америкосов это звучит: ...все в группе, известной как "Воронья стая",...Т.е. обычно они группу ворон называют группой ворон, а тут им, носителям языка объяснили, что ее можно называть вороньей стаей. Идиотизм. Нет стреляться не пойду. Да, вот только вспомнил, я еще в институте подрабатывал в одном заведении тоже связанным с образованием, так вот, там одна уже немолодая женщина искренне считала, что у лошадей косяк!!! Я помню мы ходили ржали целый день, а она на нас потом месяц дулась. Тоже наверно английский изучала. Изменено 10 октября, 2012 пользователем Zocus Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Амиата Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 Поделиться #7 Опубликовано 10 октября, 2012 (изменено) Убийственно!!!Пойду стреляться. A murder of yourself?))))))Думаю, ноги этого названия стаи у ворон растут из выражения " А вlue murder" - означающего вопли, крик и прочий грай. Изменено 10 октября, 2012 пользователем Амиата Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Xenomorph Опубликовано 11 октября, 2012 Поделиться #8 Опубликовано 11 октября, 2012 (изменено) (!!!)Осторожно, трафик(!!!) Видео "Ravens", 150 MbКачество так себе, но другого не было. Изменено 11 октября, 2012 пользователем Xenomorph Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Владимир Филатов Опубликовано 11 октября, 2012 Поделиться #9 Опубликовано 11 октября, 2012 Спасибо, посмотрел.Качество конечно, то еще, но суть ясна. Zocus, прав, нарезок из этого фильма пруд пруди...Продолжение будет? Хотя и так ясно, все лучшие сюжеты этого фильма уже тиражировались.Вот найти бы по крайней мере семь фильмов о вОронах, показанных по телевидению в 2003 - 2005г.г.Все эти фильмы из серии "Птицы от A до Z", в русском переводе показывались по Animal Planet.Искал - бесполезно, только короткие фрагменты... Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Zocus Опубликовано 11 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #10 Опубликовано 11 октября, 2012 Xenomorph, спасибо огромное Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
cheglok Опубликовано 13 октября, 2012 Поделиться #11 Опубликовано 13 октября, 2012 (!!!)Осторожно, трафик(!!!) Видео "Ravens", 150 MbКачество так себе, но другого не было. Спасибо большое с удовольствием посмотрел на фигуры высшего пилотажа Не перестаю восхищаться дикими вОронами и их мастерством палёта. Концовка хорошая, сравнение двух пар приводится Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Xenomorph Опубликовано 13 октября, 2012 Поделиться #12 Опубликовано 13 октября, 2012 (изменено) Мы тут подумываем над попыткой перевода фильма, хотя бы в субтитрах ( о дубляже пока речь не идёт), если вдруг будет спрос Изменено 13 октября, 2012 пользователем Xenomorph Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Zocus Опубликовано 14 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #13 Опубликовано 14 октября, 2012 Мы тут подумываем над попыткой перевода фильма Идея хорошая, я тоже над ней думал, и пока думал первые 15 минут фильма я уже перегнал в текст. Правда пока не знаю когда получиться заняться остальным, тут еще этот новый подобрашка. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Zocus Опубликовано 25 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #14 Опубликовано 25 октября, 2012 вот что-то взгрустнулось решил набрать часть текста. Единственное, там есть один тип - Джон Марзлуфф, так вот он тараторит хуже сороки, так что местами за его реплики я не ручаюсь. I fear that bead black eyeIn the shadows of the old grey standing stones of England there’ve risen many songs and stories of supernatural powers. Folks singer Maddy Prior is an expert in such lore and in the dark depiction of Ravens.Maddy PriorBecause they’ve seen so much around death and carnage they have become in Northern Europe associated with death and they’ve become birds of the omen.NARRATORAnd in Medieval times ravens earned their sinister reputation. It was the 14’th century and the bubonic plague was sweeping across Europe. One out of three people would die. Entire towns were stricken with no one to bury corpses in the old but empty streets. Until the Raven. Black birds gathering for the black death.To a raven a dead human was just another carcass, a grim opportunity for a meal. The sight of a raven evokes such dread. It called up ancient pagan fears from long before the counting of centuries.Maddy Prior singingI fear that bead black eyeThat pierces me to the boneThe cruel stareThe glassy glareThat fingers me alone.Maddy PriorThe ancient Celts associated the Raven with the Morrigan, goddess of death and battle. And she could shapeshift seemingly into the raven. And when they saw the raven they thought the Morrigan was there.Maddy Prior singing She deals in the black artsRuns with the soldier and wolfThe battle soundsDeath rattle mournsShe steals our eyes for herself.And the masts of MorriganAre strung across the worldSee the masts of Morrigan[Native singing]NARRATORBut on the other side of the world in the rugged Pacific Northwest the view was just the opposite. To many native tribes Raven is a celebrated figure, half clown, half God, full of mischief but the giver of great gifts.[Native singing continues]His images is everywhere, his power reveals the true nature of things. Clever and resourceful Raven invented the world, the mountains and rivers were all his idea. He even placed the Sun in the sky.Before there was light there was only twilight in Darkness. And Raven got tired of looking for food in the dark. He heard of an old man in the sky who had a box that contained another box and inside that another and another until inside the smallest one there was light. A light that Raven was determined to steal. He tricked the old man into opening the box and flew off with the light in his beak. But the old man chased him and in his hurry to escape Raven threw the light into the sky where it hangs to this day. Raven is indeed the thief but in his mischief he brought a blessing to the whole world.Fitting descendance of the original trickster wild ravens display the same curiosity and cunning. Conservation biologist John Marzluff has been studying these extraordinary birds for more than 10 years trying to understand their amazingly complex behavior. For the ravens may have not invented the world they often act as if they own it.JOHN MARZLUFFRavens are such a fascinating animals that when you start studying any of the corvids you can’t go back to study something of lesser quality. It’s just impossible. I think the other thing that did strike me and the other who work on these animals is when you catch something like a robin and you look at it, It’s just a gloss over in look and it is really nothing going on inside of a robin’s head, for as I can tell. A raven on the other hand… you hold a raven and you look at the raven and it’s looking back at you. It has a pupil, it’s dilating and contracting just like ours is. And that bird is obviously excited about you being that close to it. And you have a real tight connection with an animal like that. I suppose to {…} it is more of a blank {slate}.NarratorRavens are at home almost everywhere from desert to tundra. But where they live nothing and no one escapes their attention.These young bold eagles are rehearsing part of their courting ritual. They’re practicing an amateur maneuver of locking talents. Their future success as partners depends on them getting this right. This is deadly serious for the young eagles but for a raven it is an irresistible chance to stir up trouble.But games can’t go on forever. Ravens too must face the struggles of survival. Ravens are the members of the crow family along with jays, magpies and crows themselves. But they’re the biggest and most intelligent. They need to be intelligent to survive such different places, to work out how to find food whatever the local conditions, even those as harsh as the Wyoming winters of Yellowstone national park.Ravens survive by eating almost anything. They will eat fruits and insects, hunt small game, steal eggs. But if it’s available they prefer meat. For big game they rely on large predators to do the work. They’re often a companions of wolves and bears. But a cruel winter may be their best partner. And ravens aren’t the only scavengers that a winter kill.Coyotes also live by their wits. Like ravens they have to be both tough and flexible. The temperature here rarely gets above freezing for months on end. And strong winds make a cold more intense. With deep snow covering the ground there’s little food for the bison. Steam from Yellowstone’s geysers offers some refuge from the bitter cold. But eventually a failing bison must meet its fate.All the ravens need is patience. As fellow scavengers the coyotes compete with the ravens for precious food. But in this case the ravens need the coyote’s help. The coyotes equipped with teeth and jaws can tear open the tough frozen hide which the ravens can’t do on their own.For all scavengers the chances of finding food are unpredictable. Ravens know how and when to take advantage of other animals and get their help in finding food. Such intelligence is crucial to their survival.But once a raven has eaten its fill it looks around for something else to do. Its lively mind is always working always curious. And another sign of raven intelligence, a glimpse into its sharp mind, is its ability to simply have a good time.Ravens love fresh snow. When one finds a slope it just rolls over and over. Perhaps it is a snowy bird bath but it appears to be enjoying itself acting more like a puppy than a bird. But a raven doesn’t go long without thinking of food and one of the easiest way to get something to eat is to steal it.A bold eagle could easily crush a raven in its talons but a raven knows exactly what it’s doing. The eagle can’t attack it without releasing the food. And a raven never gives up.It’s the sheer nerve, this character and intelligence that have earned ravens a place in myths and legends, everywhere in the world where they’re found.One story comes from Scandinavia, a curious case of a recurring theft. Deep in midwinter a fisherman sets his line for a hole in the ice, leaving it unattended in the cold. But in the trees nearby a raven sits watching and realizes exactly what the stick and line are for.Reeling in the line with beak and foot the raven steals the catch day after day. The fisherman can scarcely believe his eyes when he finally discovers the identity of the thief.JOHN MARZLUFFProbably one of the most difficult areas of biology to understand is the intelligence of other animals because we can’t talk to them and ask them a question, ask them: are you thinking about this. And so devising experiments to really get at the question avowed the animals are thinking about what they’re doing are very tough.NarratorAt the University of Vermont zoologist Bernd Heinrich has devised an extraordinary experiment. He raises ravens from chicks to ensure that they have never seen this test before.Like the ice fishing case there’s food on the line and the raven pulls it up. But another string holds a stone. Whether the raven has the insight to pull up only the food or get the stone just as often?The raven never gets it wrong.Increasing the level of difficulty Heinrich crosses the lines. Now the raven must study the problem and then decide which string has the meat before pulling it upBernd HeinrichMany ravens could solve that puzzle very easily and at the first time they saw this potential problem. So that implies they have some foresight into think well to get that food, and must pull it up a bit by bit, then I would be able to eat it. Interestingly, crows were unable to do that.NarratorTo fully appreciate the complex nature of ravens there’s nothing like having one in the family. Rose Buck and her husband Loyd are professional bird trainers rearing all kinds of birds in their small farm in England. But the smartest, the most challenging, Rose’s absolute favorite is Loki. He’s always up to something.ROSE BUCKHi, this is Loki, my raven. I’ve had him since he was three weeks old. He’s bright, clever, (bright) intelligent, mischievous, so times he’ve been absolute pain but I wouldn’t have been without him and it’s just great. {сюси-пуси с птичкой}JOHN MARZLUFFI think raven’s rank is surely at the top of the bird intelligent scale. Parrots probably are close to equal with ravens but ravens have got to be right at the top. And with respect to other animals I think ravens are outrank a lot of mammals. I would put them right on a par with a lot of the canids, the wolves and the coyotes, dogs that we’re perhaps more familiar with.ROSE BUCKOne of his favorite things is to go for a driving a car. One other thing he has learned is as we drive on the track and I get off the car to open the gate, he’s learned to turn off the ignition in the car. { опять сюси-пуси}NARRATORRavens learn partly by imitation and Loki likes to do what he sees Rose do. But what Loki loves most of all is a chance to stretch his wings.ROSE BUCKI can’t fly obviously and I can’t run as fast as he can fly. So if I’m in the car for he’s flying alongside than he just really enjoys it ‘cause he can keep in face with me.NARRATORBy flying alongside her Loki strengthens his bond with Rose.In the wild ravens fly to impress each other. They perform spectacular flying displays, breathtaking aerobatics, all part of their courting behavior. Once they have found the partner these synchronized flights reinforce existing bond. Because when ravens do mate, they mate for life. And ravens can live for more than 40 years.Yet more than anything ravens seem to fly for sheer enjoyment. Хватит пока, пальцы по буржуйским кнопкам уже не попадают, в выходные закину остальное Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Амиата Опубликовано 27 октября, 2012 Поделиться #15 Опубликовано 27 октября, 2012 Как вам, однако, полезно взгрустнывается! Спасибо. Я совершенно не воспринимаю на слух(((( Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Zocus Опубликовано 27 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #16 Опубликовано 27 октября, 2012 Вот оставшаяся часть. Помимо Марзлуффа, у которого слова опережают мысли, там еще в конце проявился один йомен, возможно с шотландскими корнями. Так вот, во всем остальном мире ходит шутка, которую озвучил Гай Ричи в фильме Snatch - "вроде английский язык изобрели у вас (в Англии), так какого ж х... вас никто понять не может", ну а шотландцев даже англичане не понимают местами. Вот за его фразы я тоже не ручаюсь. То что я не расслышал обозначено вот так: {...} NARRATORRavens start nesting early in the year often on a high cliff or somewhere inaccessible, out of the way of predators. But they are just as happy to nest on a manmade cliff, however elaborate.At Chester in Northwest England a pair of ravens has built their nest on the Cathedral. Both parents bring food for the chicks. For the first few days they feed them insects and in eight days or so the chicks increase their body weight 12 times. Now the parents need to find a lot of food.The raven pair claims the territory and defends it from other ravens. The territory must provide them with all their food. In the city like Chester this would be anything from insects, birds’ eggs and scraps of food waste to small mammals like rats and mice.Not far from Chester in North Wales there’s a farm where ravens get a helping hand. The farmer puts out meat and dead chicks, but this food isn’t actually intended for the ravens. It’s meant for a rare bird whose numbers are threatened. The elegant Red Kite.Red Kites are also scavengers but they grab their food on the wing swooping down to snatch what they can from the air. Even though scavengers eat meat from carcasses they still have to be wary. A carcass may not really be dead. It might be a predator that is only injured and could still attack. The Red Kite solves this problem by staying in flight ready to get away. But ravens feed very differently. They usually stay on the ground as they feed. They need to be more cautious.JOHN MARZLUFFRavens as they approach carcasses are always like turning two directions. They approach it with one foot forward and they are always ready to spring back the other way. It’s just comical to watch them to do this. And one of the things is very stereotype that they do this what we call a ‘Jumping Jack maneuver’. What they do is come up to a food and then spring right up at the air as if they have been pinched on their toes. They just jump out of their skin in the air, came back down, look around {…} and {…} to do that. And they come back in to the food again and poke at it in. Immediately they’re just playing back and forth. You can see they’ve been pulled in two directions. They want to eat, they got to have that food and yet they can’t because it’s potentially dangerous to them. So they’re always ready to spring back in case it is indeed alive animal.NARRATORRavens have so much to learn that it takes 4 years to reach adulthood. Until then young ravens stay together in large groups often roosting in huge numbers on the tops of trees. But before sunset they can’t resist one last tumble in the air.These roosts sometimes number thousands of young birds. It’s like a great gathering of teenagers.JOHN MARZLUFFThe raven roost is a really exciting place to be. There’s a lot of interesting behavior and incredible flying skills that they display at the roost. And there’re couple things that interest us in particular. The first question of why they even roost together is a… as again it difficult… want to answer… they’re probably… many reasons why ravens and other animals roost communally. The one of the most interesting ideas was that they actually roosted together to share information about where the food was.NARRATORA young inexperienced bird may not have eaten all day.JOHN MARZLUFFAnd the animal that was unsuccessful could come back to the roost and pick the brain of animals that were successful that day.NARRATORIt’s not clear how ravens share information though this may happen on many levels. Certainly their vocalizations are as complex as any animals. A simple way could be for a hungry raven to follow one that looks well fed. If it found food yesterday it’s likely to find it again today.When a raven returns to a carcass there may be several birds already following it. Yet instead of keeping all the food for themselves one or more ravens sometimes make a characteristic yell. That seems to be calling even more of them to the kill.This behavior has puzzled scientists. Why don’t the first ravens to arrive keep silent and keep all the food for themselves. What do these ravens gain by calling others to join them? It appears to violate almost everything we know about animal behavior. Ravens must have some reason for doing this.JOHN MARZLUFFWhy? When you find a dead moose in the woods would you ever want to recruit a hundred hungry ravens to eat it? It doesn’t make any sense. Darwin would have been flipping in his grave thinking about such an altruistic act.NARRATORThe answer is about competition but not from the outside. This carcass is in the territory of a pair of adult breeding ravens. And established pairs can be very aggressive. They would savagely attack any youngster who invaded their turf. By forming a cooperative gang the young ravens can outnumber the resident adults and help themselves to the carcass.About 6 weeks after they‘ve hatched the chicks from the cliff nest are ready to begin exploring the world. By trying out everything they find out what is safe, what is interesting and what is edible. It’s just a beginning of what promises to be an interesting life.Winter. In the Austrian Alps ravens show how quickly they can adapt to any new situation. Every afternoon at exactly the same hour the ravens break the silence of these woods and gather on the trees. They know it’s feeding time. Once the food appears hordes of ravens seem to come from nowhere.As bold as you please the ravens have come to steal. This food is put out for the captive wolf pack kept at a small Zoo. Ravens robbed the food from these wolves in the same way they’d steal from a wild pack.In the wild ravens have long relied on wolves to hunt for them. There’re even stories of ravens flying ahead of a hunting pack leading them to a potential victim.The Zoo also keeps wild boars but to steal from them the ravens have come up with a different technique. Boars, being pigs tend to stand in their food making it difficult to steal without being trampled underfoot. But ravens are easily smart enough to solve that problem. A sharp peck between the shoulder blades and the boar moves away. This is such fun. It’s turning to a sport – boarback riding.In the depth of wintering Ely, Minnesota ravens are taking advantage of another animal, us. A place like this is raven heaven. When trash is left out for collection the big black birds descend helping themselves to choice leftovers. But even a trash raid requires some strategy. This raven knows he can carry four hotdogs at once. So it counts them out. But in this town they don’t even need to scavenge. It’s a local tradition in Ely to feed the ravens.Whenever so many ravens come together they have to have a social structure to communicate with each other. They use a complicated language of different sounds, body language is also important. Between ravens different postures mean different things.JOHN MARZLUFFA good example of the posturing involves the throat feathers and the head feathers that pop up what we call ‘ears’. An adult territorial bird is… feathers are stake up right on the side in their head… and that’s a very aggressive posture. They do that… their throat feathers come out, (what) we call the ‘pants’ go down as they let the feathers around their legs get really bushy. It makes them look big, it makes them look certainly more formidable.NARRATORRavens are quick, sociable and genius intelligent. And they’re the most out of the company of others, birds, mammals and especially humans. Ravens have learned to use other creature’s skills to their own advantage.Ravens even do a little planning for the future. A dead hare is more than enough for a one raven and it can’t eat it all at once also it tries its best. The word ‘ravenous’ says it all. But once it’s eaten its fill it’s so heavy it can hardly take off. It carries the rest of food away to hide. Now it must find good hiding places and remember where they are.Hiding food for future use, a behavior called cashing, is a good way to protect against uncertain food supplies.That is a {mess}, another raven is watching. When the rightful owner leaves, this raven just helps itself. There’s no honor among these thieves.This cashing behavior leads to other interesting relationships.On some golf courses ‘getting a birdie’ doesn’t always mean what a golfer thinks. Some ravens have taken to stealing golf balls and hiding them. It’s possible that they do this because golf balls look like eggs which they also steal and cash. Or perhaps it’s the old brand of raven’s mischief.Wherever there’re humans there’s usually a meal. And humans aren’t hard to find, our tracks are unmistakable. Ravens primarily use sight to find their food and it’s easier to spot a carcass on a road than among the trees. Where humans have tamed the wilderness road kills every place the kills of the great predators.But while modern ravens have adapted to changing times, they never completely forget their old and honored relationships.JOHN MARZLUFFAnother example is their response to hunters and it was quite clear in our studies. But as soon as the hunting season started the ravens abandon their association with the small landfill and then immediately took off to follow hunters and find gut piles of a deer and it starts right on the day that hunting season opened.NARRATORIn Scotland ravens still follow human hunters and they seem to know exactly when the deer season starts.A hunter with a gun is an even more efficient killing machine than a pack of wolves. And wherever there’s death there’s something in it for a raven.Ravens are the only birds to fly toward the sound of a gunshot.The hunter removes the deer’s innards, the gralloch, right away so the venison won’t spoil. He has no further use for this, so he just leaves it behind. But to the raven the hunter has discarded the best part of the carcass. The guts and organs of an animal are the most nutritious and being soft are the easiest parts to digest.Ravens have always followed humans. Their relationship is an ancient one and not always so benign, because humans don’t just kill animals. We kill each other.In the past these hillsides have seen great human slaughter but to a raven a battlefield is just a well laid feast. A human corpse is same as any other. Sinister, completely black, with ghoulish eating habits they’ve long held their reputation as birds of death.Yet there’s one place in England where ravens hold a place of honor, the Tower of London. These birds are so important that a special Tower guard tends to their every need.DAVID COPEMy name is David Cope. I’m the yeoman ravenmaster here in the Tower of London. My job is to make sure that the ravens are healthy, well fed and safe.NARRATOR These ravens are even under the protection of the Crown. They’ve witnessed much of England’s colorful past. From the Tower green ravens would have witnessed the executions of Anne Boleyn, Walter Raleigh and Thomas More. But they always enjoy this frontrow seat to history. In medieval London ravens were so numerous they became a public nuisance. When they interfered with the equipment of the Royal Observatory of the Tower, the Astronomer Royal pleaded with King Charles II to be rid of them once and for all.DAVID COPEAll know that the King don’t get rid of all the ravens because he’ve heard this legend and it’s based on the Legend of BranBran was a giant raven and he was in battle with Northern Ireland, he was mortally wounded and his few remaining followers brought him back to Anglesey in North Wales. And this is where he died in his wife’s arms. There she was called Branwen which means ‘white raven’ and she then died of grief. Bran’s remains were brought to London and were buried on the White Hill. And this legend grows up around that as long as it laid undisturbed all would be well with England.NARRATORA legend still holds: as long as there’re ravens at the Tower of London England will not fall. Curiously during the dark years of World War II England’s fortune’s {vained} as t he Tower ravens died and were not replaced. By the end of the war only one raven stood between England and utter disaster.Today they take no chances. Six ravens are always on duty with two auxiliaries kept in reserve. Their wings are clipped so they cannot fly away.They may be the guardians of the Nation but still manage to get into trouble with the authorities.DAVID COPEWe have a story of one of our ravens and he was called George. George was a very lonesome bird and he was always planning the Great Escape, very often to be seen going up under the pass to catch in on the ground trying {… handkerchief} over his wing. George has found the way to escape with to go up the fire escape by the {…} house. And on the way he would have a snack. Televisionaries loved him. Five aerials in one week. Enough was enough. George had to go.NARRATORTechnically these ravens are privates in the British Army and there’s just one way to dismiss a soldier.DAVID COPEHe was given additionable discharge and was sent to the Welsh Mountain Zoo. Now George is possible the only private in the British Army ever to be given this additionable discharge by a Field Marshall.POTPOURRI Ravens have amazingly powerful characteristics and they have this wonderfully knowing eye that asks to be written about or write songs about, to make them human ‘cause this there……they’re able to live with humans, they can exploit us and yet they can be found in the farthest most remote areas as well. So they {…} contrast an animal that’s living with humans versus living as far away from humans, as I can get. It’s really fascinating. So it’s one of these bad addictions and when you get in to them you can’t get out of them. They’re just continuously more interesting.Loki could live for another 30 to 40 years, so we’re planning to grow together. Every day with Loki is a new experience. I couldn’t imagine being without himNARRATORFrom a Trickster creator to a bird of death, from a wildly scavenger to a member of the family there’s more to were raven then all our legends and stories. Yet we will never know ravens completely. They will always be birds of mystery, creatures of endless fascination, a reflection of nature’s many meanings. Маленькая поправка в первой части. В фразеMaddy PriorBecause they’ve seen so much around death and carnage they have become in Northern Europe associated with death and they’ve become birds of the omen.следует читать:...birds of ILL omen. Вот вроде все. Если это поможет в организации субтитров , буду только рад. Сам этим заниматься не буду по двум причинам: первая эгоистичная - 99,8% текста мне и так понятна, вторая практичная - времени на причесывание русского текста и запихивание его в субтитры у меня просто нет. Xenomorph, если все-таки соберетесь и вдруг возникнут вопросы с переводом, пишите - помогу. 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Zocus Опубликовано 27 октября, 2012 Автор Поделиться #17 Опубликовано 27 октября, 2012 Только что наткнулся на пару интересных статей про Тауэрских вОронов. Правда, для тех кто дружит с английским:http://www.forteantimes.com/features/artic..._the_raven.htmlhttp://www.forteantimes.com/features/artic...ter_speaks.html Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
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